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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Mon, October 26, 2009 - 11:52 AMSeriously.. Rendall! You just hit on one of my most angry moments. Bookstore, 94 maybe, I leave my bike at the backdoor, someone must have been watching me for days, I come around the front, about two minutes, open the back door, it's not there. Way, way pissed. Glad the guy got away. Haven't opened up yet.
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Mon, October 26, 2009 - 11:53 AMWow; they were almost hugging him.
Guy got off easy. Very easy. I hope he got down on his knees and praised Jesus for making hipsters gentle. That was... downright relaxing. I can't believe the lack of blood. Truly amazing.
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Mon, October 26, 2009 - 11:54 AMNew York is so fucking funny.
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Mon, October 26, 2009 - 1:13 PM>>I thought NY was hard? <<
The dirty little secret of NY is that we've gone soft. Life is good here, and we have such a rep from the bad old days and the media that we basically just have to give someone a hard look and they back off. But when it comes time to unleash the dark, we only manage a little smokey squirt before everyone gets back to the hugging. It's pathetic, really. Even Bridge&Tunnel are tougher than us. We're kind of afraid of these barbarians who assault our sensibilities every weekend. -
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Mon, October 26, 2009 - 1:20 PMso.
Can I sleep on your couch? -
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Mon, October 26, 2009 - 1:51 PMI blame Roe v. Wade. Without all those aborted fetuses growing up to run around and fuck shit up there's no one to keep us on our toes. -
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Mon, October 26, 2009 - 1:56 PMRoe v. Wade: Tool for Social Leavening
Man, that has Government Research Grant written all over it.
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Wed, October 28, 2009 - 2:14 PMMy brother couldn't almost sleep as a child.
Rendall, did you mention some action an octopus might perform?
Octo-. Eight. Hello.
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Wed, October 28, 2009 - 2:09 PMI propose that whomever steals someone's bike shall have to get on their hands and knees and carry the theft victim to whatever destination they wish.
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Wed, October 28, 2009 - 2:21 PMI like the deal in Japan where below-par businessmen have to sing really loud while wearing lots of ribbons in a public place. -
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Wed, October 28, 2009 - 2:23 PMAre you saying that that's what they do to bicycle thieves? -
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Wed, October 28, 2009 - 3:17 PMOh no; it was just a thought. The alleged thief in the video's real punishment was shame. They didn't hurt him, but everyone within sight *hated* him and he could sense it. You can see his face communicating his swell of self-loathing.
That's so much more brutal than a mere ass-kicking (which imo wouldn't have stood nearly as good a chance of deterring his future criminality). Shame isn't as great a motivator for Americans as it is for Nipponese - but maybe we should experiment with it.
Teens of the current crop, apparently, will kill themselves if you call them fat on Myspace. Instead of trying to legislate against cruel application of shame, let's wield it, like a club, or a scalpel. -
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Wed, October 28, 2009 - 4:19 PMDon't be a Jason. People want physical things, let them have them. Gives the adults some quiet time. Pacifier.
Who cares if other people are fat? Not my business. Japanese aren't ordinarily statistically fat. I like them. Islanders.
Shame is not our weapon, nor humiliation.
Just keep the fire hot. Fire calms people. It makes the shadows dance. You know as well as I do Loki that the simpletons among us are easily scared. Pacify them. Revert them to the innocence of a sheltered, protected childhood where they are awed into submission. -
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Wed, October 28, 2009 - 4:20 PMGotta make sure the bonobo thin g goes better the next time through. -
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Wed, October 28, 2009 - 4:45 PMNah; I'll stick with shaming. If Jason had ever gotten laid as a young man, most of his current "opponents" would be worshiping his integrity. I'd wager. Only 1) being consistently wrong about 2) the specific things he's so wrong about make Jason a bad man. Were there any ethical basis for his pogrom against sanity (or any situation in which arguing with him served some purpose) then he'd be exemplary of intellectual honesty. Sadly, he's just a perverted loon with a poor vocabulary and a weak grasp of low-order logic.
No invocation of a golden age society excuses the asshole from stealing bikes. Sorry. You, though, are free to forgive anyone that pleases you to forgive. I tend not to excuse people, on any basis, really. It's rare that a situation actually calls for forgiveness - usually, I find, it's more of a matter of me letting go of anger than telling someone the fib "you are forgiven".
The ethical bottom line, here, as I see it, is clear: the bike was locked up.
No one is 'forgiven'. Consequences are real. Dude got far less than his crime merited; they did the right thing twice: thoroughly punished him, and backed off before he got hurt. The shithead gets to keep his body intact and the couriers get to avoid going to jail over stupid bullshit. One thing's sure, the shithead looked around *very* carefully before he stole his next bike. I'm guess he went back to work the day or so following this incident. -
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Wed, October 28, 2009 - 9:56 PMHe deserved a far worse beating. One that would make him get another job. -
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Wed, October 28, 2009 - 10:56 PMThat probably happened after the camera was switched off. -
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Thu, October 29, 2009 - 1:59 PMAh; yes; praise Jesus.
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Thu, October 29, 2009 - 2:09 AM"Don't be a Jason. "
Who?
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Thu, October 29, 2009 - 5:38 PMI just noticed where that is. I assumed it was a neighborhood in Brooklyn, but that's right down the street! Here's a google street view:
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Thu, October 29, 2009 - 6:04 PMcool man. know what? New York is plenty violent.
So is the rest of the country. -
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Thu, October 29, 2009 - 8:16 PM
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Thu, October 29, 2009 - 8:48 PMyes. Wait, wha?
shortattentionspan.tribe.net/thr...7189
We've been saying all along how this was a relatively non-violent beating. -
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Fri, October 30, 2009 - 3:02 PMWhat?
You want to fight, don't you. -
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Fri, October 30, 2009 - 4:30 PMYou talkin' to me?
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Re: Don't steal bikes, bro!
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 7:18 PMFight! Fight! Fight!
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